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Sean McBride: Diaspora to Israel: We Need You To Change – (J.J. Goldberg) -
Comment: Another false statement by you -- I don't view antisemitism in religious or mystical terms -- I view it in secular social psychological terms.
You didn't respond to the question: how would feel about being personally attacked simply because you are a Latino?
What would prevent you from declaring that any other non-Jew critic of messianic jewish nationalism are all anti-semites who hate all Jews?
I have always made clear distinctions between rational critiques of Judaism and Zionism on the one hand and irrational Judeophobia on the other. These are distinctions you fail to understand.
If you freely and shamelessly accuse me, repeatedly, of hating every jew just for being jewish, you would do it to any other goy who got wise to messianic jewish nationalism and the danger.
You still haven't responded to the question: how would feel about being personally attacked simply because you are a Latino?
Perhaps this conversation can move forward once pepsi turns up quotes and links that prove that I am religious.
pepsi should subscribe to me and let me know in a direct message when he has collected the quotes. Then I will reopen the thread.
My "religion," to the extent that I have one, consists of an interest in comparative world religions (in the context of world intellectual history), and some empathy for Buddhism, Reconstructionist Judaism, Theosophy, Transcendentalism and Unitarian Universalism (but not limited to those belief systems). I am basically an Enlightenment skeptic. Religions are ideologies to be understood, not usually to be believed in. All religions express important aspects of the human mind. Religious "true believers" often engage in crazy behavior on the basis of fairy tales -- but religions also often enshrine important universal human ideals and values. It's complex.
Being raised as a Roman Catholic (and in part as an Episcopalian as well) made a strong impact on me -- it taught me to think about the world in trans-nationalist and trans-ethnic terms. Christianity is a universalist belief system (but one that has often been abused by many Christians). Christian Zionism is radically opposed to the Christianity I learned about -- anti-Christian, in fact -- a peculiar cult led and populated by people who seem to know very little about Christian theology.
Re: M.J. Rosenberg -- I've made both positive and negative comments about him -- he's a mixed bag. Overall he is trying his best to push back against negative trends in the Zionist world -- and probably at great personal cost. He deserves some praise -- and some criticism when he leans too heavily on the charge of antisemitism to attack MW.
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Mondoweiss on Friendfeed: ‘Zionism’ is now a dirty word for American opinion elite, Frank Luntz concedes -
Comment: 41 percent of the American opinion elite look on Zionism as an unfavorable term, compared to just 29 percent of that group who regard it favorably, Israel-lovin pollster Frank Luntz concedes in leaked PowerPoint
'' American -- I am smart enough to make accurate political predictions on a regular basis'....Sean).....Oh really? Give us one. And not what some political whore for the zio lobby is gonna say about Palestine aqttacks ----thats not a political prediction. ..thats sop for lobby whores. My prediction is that the Palestine revenge attacks will increase the calls by the EU and others for there to be a settlement of I/P
American -- I challenge you over the coming days to find a single American politician or pundit (mainstream or alternative media) who expresses support for the terrorist attack on the synagogue. And this has nothing to do with Zionism -- these kinds of attacks provoke revulsion all across the political spectrum.
Senator Rand Paul: Prayers sent to ppl of Israel. This horrific & violent act should be universally condemned. I vow to #StandWithIsrael
I challenge you to make one comment that isnt twisted and unrelated to what taxi,danaa or I have said. And seriously how STUPID STUPID STUPID is this question......" to find a single American politician or pundit (mainstream or alternative media) who expresses support for the terrorist attack on the synagogue''''..Can you get any more STUPID STUPID STUPID than to suggest anyone is going to make a statement supporting it?
Twitter, per usual, is a reliable guide to how opinion is trending on particular issues among thought leaders: I haven't seen a single tweet yet trying to defend or justify the attack. Zip.
'' the Israel lobby is more powerful in American politics than ever -- and you don't seem to understand why this is the case. - Sean McBride)......Why dont you explain to us why this the case Sean....come on we wanna hear your explanation.
American -- I've provided you with the explanation many times -- but your mind is closed and you don't want to listen. Many non-Jewish Americans support Israel and Zionism for a wide variety of reasons -- ideological, religious, cultural, financial, etc. The military-industrial complex is an especially powerful player in this game -- it has profited to the tune of hundreds of billions dollars from Israeli and neoconservative policies. The Jewish wing of the Israel lobby has fertile soil in the United States for promoting its agenda. Hundreds of billions of dollars (arguably trillions) is a powerful motivator.
American -- classical Western imperialist interests (*not* Jewish) have used Zionism as a convenient cover for running roughshod over the Middle East. Jewish Zionists have done all the heavy lifting for them in terms of churning out endless streams of self-justifying propaganda for their policies. It's a sweet deal especially from the standpoint of the military-industrial complex. These factors may be in play with regard to Martin Dempsey, who sits near the top of that particular power elite.
Taxi -- if political pressure from the West won't rein in Israel (and that is a likely scenario), then I fear that Palestinians are facing a future that will be even more horrifing than their past. They can engage in military resistance, but I doubt that it will work. The track record since the 1940s suggests that it won't. But I don't think we should give up in firing up political pressure on Israel in the United States and Europe -- it *might* work.
American -- make that supports, provides apologetics for, hems and haws about, equivocates about, etc. the attack on the synagogue -- I haven't seen any of that among the usual thought leaders among critics of Israel. Maybe you will turn up something. Be sure to post it if you do.
I seem to recall the FBI trying really hard to reason with David Koresh and followers. Now, why, oh why did the whole place have to go up in flames? is there some truth to the assertion that reasoning with cult followers and leaders is like reasoning with the insane who claims to be napoleon? now what is practical? I believe the FBI thought they were being quite practical when they laid siege to the waco compound. So, why, oh why did that not work? was it al;l the FBI's fault? one wonders....(and note I didn't bring in the Jones guys in Guayane. Didn't some congreeman try to go there and help negotiate something? what exactly was it that happened to him?). You Sean readily denounce israel and israelis as deluded megalomaniacal, ethnocentric, messianic ninkompoops. But I fear you don't actually know what it means to be in a cult and why reasoning with cult members seems to fail so badly.
If palestinians end up driven out and herded into bantustans like Gaza, there to slowly suffocate as the people in Gaza do, then perhaps, perhaps some reaction can be expected. be it upon upon houses of cult worship (cf. synagogs) or houses of education (cf. preaching) or any other place where jewish people and friends run about frolicking while others are burning. I am sure that when only one palestinian is left in allof israel Sean will still ask us to condemn his actions if he stabbed some storm trooper or a passer-by (who could be a storm trooper ior is on his/her way to becoming one). Is that true Sean? must we continue to condemn all acts of resistance? make them appear like some Columbine shooting?
For your own sake, Sean you need to take a stand on which side you are. I know you understand Big Data but I don't think you (or I, for that matter) are experts at tactics available to those who are too weak to defend themselves.
My thoughts on "the global Jewish collective": don't try to harangue and bully Jews into a corner but give them every conceivable opportunity to revise their views and to modify the policies of the collective. Try to create openings and situations for positive change. Any anti-Israel and anti-Zionist rhetoric that has the look and feel of classical antisemitism and Judeophobia will just make matters much worse and lead to God knows what -- maybe even Armageddon. I will never join a lynch mob against any ethnic or religious group -- that kind of energy leaves one feeling dirty. And often the worst people in the world are drawn to that kind of energy -- it can easily turn into a form of mass psychosis that leads to genocide. If we disagree on these matters, so be it. We disagree. We all have our views.
'' Sean, if the global jewish collective was innocent and not going to hell and high water to support the war crimes of the racist state of israel, then I would find any attacks against them unacceptable. But the fact is that the jewish collective are in total, whole-hearted alignment with israel's ethnic cleansing, incremental genocide and infanticide. So it doesn't bother me to hear critical voices like our pal American. I don't really care what religion the criminal is. I don't care if today's criminal survived a genocide only yesterday - why should that mean anything in the face of their crime today? - Taxi)......EXACTLY.! And if 'todays killers' have to be verbally demonized or have the literal shit beat out of them to make to them STOP then I am fine that.
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Mo Kargas: My eyes are almost coming out of my head reading what some women have suffered through and their constant fear. How dare men treat them that way. These are mothers, wives and sisters - the continued existence of the human race begins and ends with them.
Comment: All males are only here because a tough as steel female went through unimaginable pain and hardship to bring them into the world. A debt that cannot be repaid.
Yep. Meanwhile, so many males (and actually some females, too) continue to say it's all exaggeration, lies, miscommunication, and falsehoods.
My parents brought me up to be considerate, polite and accommodating. I don't even think thoughts like these, let alone say them. These men sound like little more than animals.
That murderer as well, I cannot get over. I've been single for ages and I've never thought it was anyone's fault but my own. Talk about entitlement. What a dipshit, truly hope he rots.
I think part of it is that so much of it is secret. When women are victims, it's often not public or publicized. The abuser isn't outed because women are fearful and ashamed and made to feel guilty. Most abusers don't advertise what they've done and go to great lengths to conceal it. As a result, no one really knows who the "bad guys" are.
Teaching kids from a young age about respect, consent, and human rights. As for those who are already grown and set in their ways? I don't hold out much hope.
And it does have to start early. When I was in Grade 4 and 5, a boy decided he liked me. A lot. He wanted to kiss me, but I didn't want to kiss him or have anything to do with him at all. He tried chasing me around during recess, but I was too fast, so he recruited his friends in Grade 7 and 8 to chase and catch me. It was horrible and the administration did NOTHING to help me. I'd fight back and he said my scratches on his arms would give him skin cancer and he'd sue me, which stressed me out even more because my mom was a struggling single parent. My only relief from my tormentors came when we moved out of state.
So, when I hear that kids get sent home or suspended for kissing or groping classmates, I think it's great. Because I got NO support, other than my 4th grade teacher, who gave me sanctuary in her classroom at recess, whenever she could. I hope SOMEONE got to that kid (and his buddies) but would not be surprised to hear that he and his buddies grew up to be rapists.
I remember in elementary school, each day of the week had a "theme" on the playground. The two I can recall is Friday Flip Up Day (in which boys were allowed/encouraged to flip up the girls' skirts) and Boys Chase Girls Day (in which boys were encouraged to chase and kiss girls). The recess teachers announced which day it was at the beginning of recess time. I really, really hope this kind of thing doesn't happen anymore. But I think adults in positions of authority encouraging boys in this kind of behavior is part of what has led to many boys of my generation having the ideas and behaviors that they do now as adults.
Rochelle, exactly. When I was being hunted down every day, the teachers and staff were all, "aw, isn't it CUTE how he likes her so much!" Of course, that was 40 years ago, back before folks would just skip to getting attorneys involved (not that we could have afforded to do that).
Mo, I never tell men I just meet what I do for a living. I might admit to Esthetics but a lot of times I say customer service. I downplay a job I LOVE and I love helping people heal their bodies but I'm shamed sometimes. As soon as you mention massage, the oral sex and handjob jokes begin. Also, the all-latinas-are-dtf-so it's ok-if we-almost-rape-you.
I'm so sorry you guys have suffered this animalistic behavior. All I can do is make sure my own behavior is up to standard, and stomp anyone getting out of line.
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Victor Ganata: If you’re a boy writer, it’s a simple rule: you’ve gotta get used to the fact that you suck at writing women and that the worst women writer can write a better man than the best male writer can write a good woman. And it’s just the minimum. Because the thing about the sort of heteronormative masculine privilege, whether it’s in Santo Domingo, or... -
Comment: "Every time I’m teaching boys to write, I read their women to them, and I’m like, 'Yo, you think this is good writing?' These motherfuckers attack each other over cliche lines but they won’t attack each other over these toxic representations of women that they have inherited… their sexist shorthand, they think that is observation. They think that their sexist distortions are insight."
I think you're reading into the article a give that's not there. I've been told any woman can write about my experience without resorting to stereotypes, which I highly doubt, that I've been told women aren't real human beings, which is laughably untrue, and that I went to college thinking women are for doing in both senses, also laughably untrue. The unexamined prejudices are all over the place. Though I completely agree that my chances of writing accurately about someone elses experience are close to zero, and if I attempted to do so, even with all the best research and intentions in the world, I would be called some other nasty name.
Well, OK. I mean, I don't think that's what he's actually saying, but, you're right, that's not in that excerpt. The underlying idea is that regardless of our backgrounds, our class/race/gender/orientation, we all tend to get taught the same default normal concerning people. Yes, of course there are exceptions, yes, of course not everyone is like this, but this really need to be qualified?
The thing is, if you're not *actually* one of these default normal people, you still end up absorbing the tropes about what being default normal is about (and, yes they're tropes and cliches but they are literally constantly being reinforced in all forms of media, all the time.) So people who are not default normal often end up constructing both the default normal identity and their own personal identity.
Although, again, not everyone successfully does this, and some default normal people can conversely successfully construct ideas about non-default normal people that aren't ridden with pre-packaged stereotypes.
So, be insulted if you want, and yeah, the excerpt is deficient because the full context isn't there, but I think there's still something there behind the hyperbolic language, and if you don't want to look at it, that's also fair.
More context if you're truly interested: 'The Baseline Is, You Suck': Junot Diaz on Men Who Write About Women - The Atlantic
Interviewer: "It sounds like you're saying that literary 'talent' doesn't inoculate a write—especially a male writer—from making gross, false misjudgments about gender. You'd think being a great writer would give you empathy and the ability to understand people who are unlike you—whether we're talking about gender or another category. But that doesn't seem to be the case."
Junot Diaz: "I think that unless you are actively, consciously working against the gravitational pull of the culture, you will predictably, thematically, create these sort of fucked-up representations. Without fail. The only way not to do them is to admit to yourself [that] you're fucked up, admit to yourself that you're not good at this shit, and to be conscious in the way that you create these characters."
Diaz: "It's so funny what people call inspiration. I have so many young writers who're like, 'Well I was inspired. This was my story.' And I'm like, 'OK. Sir, your inspiration for your stories is like every other male's inspiration for their stories: that the female is only in there to provide sexual service.' There comes a time when this mythical inspiration is exposed for doing exactly what it's truthfully doing: to underscore and reinforce cultural structures, or I'd say, cultural asymmetry."
*dithers over weighing in ... figures, "what the hell"* ... Within the context of young writers and the mistakes they're prone to, and given that Diaz is well respected within his profession, I take his comments seriously. Also given the dreadful representation women get in popular media, I'm guessing he's probably in the ballpark for many professional writers too.Also, isn't there a dust up on the interwebs over the backlash against female critics of male portrayals of women in video games and such? Again, seems like Diaz is on fairly solid ground.
I mean, I think it would totally be possible for you or I to write a book or short story about a totally clichéd non-default normal person and not be called names. I think we'd be able to get it published and even win awards and critical acclaim and even have a movie made out of it because that pretty much seems to happen all the damn time. So, no, I don't think the "both sides do it" argument flies in this case either.
From Barry's Tumblr, I think Gene Yang pretty much touches upon a lot of the same things, though perhaps in a less inflammatory fashion
"We have to allow ourselves the freedom to make mistakes, including cultural mistakes, in our first drafts. I believe it’s okay to get cultural details wrong in your first draft. It’s okay if stereotypes emerge. It just means that your experience is limited, that you’re human."
"Just make sure you iron them out before the final draft. Make sure you do your homework. Make sure your early readers include people who are a part of the culture you’re writing about. Make sure your editor has the insider knowledge to help you out. If they don’t, consider hiring a freelance editor who does."
"And let’s say you do your best. You put in all the effort you can. But then when your book comes out, the Internet gets angry. You slowly realize that, for once, the Internet might be right. You made a cultural misstep. If this happens, take comfort in the fact that even flawed characters can inspire. Apologize if necessary, resolve do better, and move on."
I think it just comes down to this: if you're going to write outside of your experience, you're probably going to get it wrong. Expect to be criticized. Perhaps savagely. Especially if you're in a creative writing class that's being taught by Junot Diaz. And hopefully you can make things better before you publish. I suppose the whole asymmetry between the experiences of the privileged vs. the non-privileged (in whatever axis) can be regarded as wholy speculative if you really want/need it to be.
I wish I could find the source, but I remember something about George R.R. Martin's introduction of Daenerys Targaryen starting with her thinking about how her boobs felt moving under her shirt. I've also seen him being praised for writing women so realistically. I think sometimes men get too much credit for writing "realistic" women because they are slightly less stereotypical. Just a thought.
Yeah, and Weiss and Benioff definitely make GRRM look a lot better in comparison. But I don't think it's a *huge* stretch to say there's always room for improvement.
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